On the witness stand Monday, Amber Heard acknowledged that Johnny Depp wouldn’t look at her. Depp’s lawyer explained why that is.

Amber Heard’s behavior during her appearances on the witness stand is fundamentally different from Johnny Depp’s. While the ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ star always kept her distance from Amber Heard and referred to her as ‘Ms. Heard’, she called him ‘Johnny’.

Amber Heard: Johnny Depp doesn’t look at her

Noticeable so far: Johnny Depp didn’t look at the “Aquaman” actress. He didn’t meet Heard’s eyes once, only occasionally raising his head and exchanging a few words with his legal team.

“Mr. Depp didn’t look at you once during the entire process, did he?” asked Camille Vasquez, one of the ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ actor’s attorneys, to which Heard agreed, saying she hadn’t noticed anything to the contrary. “You know exactly why Mr. Depp isn’t looking at you, don’t you?” Vasquez asked and then played a recording made in the summer of 2016. Heard and Depp met at a hotel in San Francisco at the time. At the time, the two hadn’t reached an agreement under which Depp would pay his ex-wife $7 million. Heard had obtained a restraining order against him at the time.

In the recording, Heard can be heard begging Depp to hug her and he resists. He also promises her that she will never see his eyes again. “After all that shit you just said?” the actor said. “After all that shit you threw at me? I’m nothing to you and I always will be nothing to you. We’ll never see each other again. Don’t take off my damn glasses. You won’t see my eyes anymore.”

Recording from 2016

Heard confirmed on the witness stand that Depp couldn’t look at her. Her spokesman justified Depp’s lack of eye contact with a lack of courage. “No wonder Mr Depp doesn’t have the strength or courage to even look at Ms Heard throughout the trial – as he couldn’t in the UK trial – and instead he doodles and giggles,” they told People.

Which: “People”

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