It is right to deliver heavy weapons to Kyiv, says Henry Kissinger, the grand old man of international crisis diplomacy. But the war over Ukraine must not become a war over Russia.

Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger called for further dialogue with Russia and also with its President Vladimir Putin. Kissinger said: “One day the war will end. And after this war, the relationship between Ukraine and Russia will be redefined. Europe will also have to redefine its relationship with Russia, because Russia will continue to be an important factor in international relations Should Russia break up as a result of the war, it would lead to chaos in Central Asia and the Middle East.”

When asked whether peace would only be possible after Putin’s ouster, Kissinger said: “It is likely that a peace treaty will have to be made with Putin. Should he be overthrown, that would certainly make negotiations easier. But if all goals were achieved, it would have a continuation of the war just to overthrow Putin, certainly no public support, no matter how unpopular Putin is at the moment.”

The political scientist, who advised numerous US presidents in leading positions, also advocated a comprehensive new aid program for Ukraine: “After the war, a reconstruction plan for the devastated Ukraine is essential. I hope that the states of the Atlantic Alliance will work together on this. In In this sense, we need a Marshall Plan. And in a deeper sense, a hopeful experiment could emerge: Russia will have understood that an attack on Europe will miss the mark. NATO is acting as one, with the support of the USA. Europe will have to ask itself : What should the long-term relationship with Russia look like? Does it have to be based solely on military deterrence – or is cooperation based on cool decisions possible?”

Henry Kissinger: “Putin’s nuclear threats must not be backed down under any circumstances”

On the question of whether Ukraine should become a member of the EU, Kissinger said: “In 2014 I wrote an article in the Washington Post warning against making Ukraine a member of NATO. At the time I thought Ukraine could a bridging role between Russia and the EU. I thought she could play a role like Finland – with a strong commitment to self-defense but also a willingness to engage in dialogue. That is no longer possible. Ukraine is practically a NATO member, and it will be difficult to reverse. One solution I envision would be arms limitations along the EU-Russia borders, coupled with a commitment to mutual restraint, but that will require a great deal of intellectual effort.”

Of course, Kissinger also called for resolute resistance to Russian nuclear threats: “It is a very fragile situation when nuclear powers are in conflict over a non-nuclear country. As far as Russia’s nuclear threats are concerned – we must by no means back down. Out Two reasons: It is an irony of history that since World War II enormous sums have been spent on improving nuclear weapons and yet no country has used them since no one feels able to control the consequences If he crosses the border, he has to be rejected. Agreeing to a peace treaty that comes about under the threat of the use of nuclear weapons is unthinkable. That would change the world.”

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